tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post6098830984717613517..comments2023-12-23T22:32:53.531+08:00Comments on Taking Up The Challenge: Dark Secrets Of Apprenticeship - "Money See Monkey Do" - By Peter ChanVictorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-22214646807187010162009-07-28T10:28:27.363+08:002009-07-28T10:28:27.363+08:00Haha, your masks very funny - looks like batgirl i...Haha, your masks very funny - looks like batgirl in a taxi.<br /><br />Vic, besides the reasons you stated I guess another is that the authorities think it is not morally right to collect money from their immoral activities. If not they would look like pimp.frnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-30463712785194117022009-07-27T23:38:03.827+08:002009-07-27T23:38:03.827+08:00Andy, I forgot about your offer to meet up for cof...Andy, I forgot about your offer to meet up for coffee. Thanks, I would be glad to have the opportunity to have coffee with you. If you don't mind, maybe with a few of my friends too, including YG and Peter. You'll be surprised that one of them (not YG nor Peter) may even be older than you.<br /><br />My email contact is at the left panel of my blog (but you must do some manipulating to prove that you are not a robot). Do drop me an email, okay?Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-38525090839012479882009-07-27T23:24:39.665+08:002009-07-27T23:24:39.665+08:00Andy, you sang very well that night and it was nic...Andy, you sang very well that night and it was nice meeting you and your missus (I hope she is :p). Thanks for taking a photo with me.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-18813662364825074462009-07-27T23:22:56.797+08:002009-07-27T23:22:56.797+08:00Shilpa, I didn't take the photos of the girl i...Shilpa, I didn't take the photos of the girl in the car and so I can't comment on how the candid shots were taken. However, I had reliable information that she was on her way to ply the trade.<br /><br />Hmm... you have a valid point there; I am scared of being sued. So I have masked the girls in all 3 photos. (But actually hor, the girl in the taxi was wearing so thick make-up that it effectively acted as a mask already.)Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-72188363112353992502009-07-27T23:16:06.544+08:002009-07-27T23:16:06.544+08:00Fr, I am no tax expert but I guess the workers and...Fr, I am no tax expert but I guess the workers and the brothel owners don't get taxed because there's no way to verify their earnings. Firstly, they don't issue receipts for transactions. Even if they do, you don't want to keep such incriminating evidence as a customer. Secondly, customers won't complain about them not paying taxes - doing so would expose themselves (just like what YG has done above). Thirdly, unlike for the hawkers, the tax evasion officers can't pose as customers and stake out or expose the high-income earners.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-42191917878192549712009-07-27T23:09:08.953+08:002009-07-27T23:09:08.953+08:00Icemoon, what is "sammyboyforum"? I don&...Icemoon, what is "sammyboyforum"? I don't visit those virtual places for sex.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-8060770041243854542009-07-27T11:43:46.561+08:002009-07-27T11:43:46.561+08:00andy, sorry, i could not make it your concert but...andy, sorry, i could not make it your concert but i have read all the happenings in your blog. before i met victor, i also had this image of him - a short and rotund, balding old man. boy, was i surprised when i saw the actual person! my mental image of him might have been shaped by the language he uses and the topics of his blog.yghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07054865524193859788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-1896126307644986092009-07-27T08:43:31.794+08:002009-07-27T08:43:31.794+08:00Hi Victor,
Your varied interest about the goings o...Hi Victor,<br />Your varied interest about the goings on in Singapore astounds me. Now you're walking the red light areas. Extremely exciting report.<br />Thank you for attending the show at Orchid Country and meeting me. I expected an older person and was surprised to see a tall, handsome, spritely young man.<br />Now my wife is reading your blog too. Hope to meet you for coffee one day.<br />Cheers.ANDY: Pop Music Not Pills. ©https://www.blogger.com/profile/10946638825812052608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-22850189402494620082009-07-27T02:34:24.535+08:002009-07-27T02:34:24.535+08:00Wah, Vic, how did you get the shot of the girl in ...Wah, Vic, how did you get the shot of the girl in the taxi??? ;-) How you know she's plying the trade? How come didn't blur her face? Sekali get sued how? ;-)Shilpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01775487084298169773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-52171568233495383672009-07-26T10:40:19.324+08:002009-07-26T10:40:19.324+08:00Vic, I was thinking since P is legal, how come the...Vic, I was thinking since P is legal, how come the workers and brothel owners are not taxed. (They don't pay taxes, right?) Although they are not illegal, maybe they are not legalized yet.frnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-44032308836151088062009-07-26T01:09:39.626+08:002009-07-26T01:09:39.626+08:00oh dear what was I thinking. red became royalty an...oh dear what was I thinking. red became royalty and ka became tai. eyes must be focusing on the last two pictures .. deserve to fail.<br /><br />this post deserves to be in sammyboyforum as well .. hahaIcemoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08174805596607457468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-29640129468849347362009-07-26T00:03:09.220+08:002009-07-26T00:03:09.220+08:00YG - Foreword, backword or sideways - as many styl...YG - Foreword, backword or sideways - as many styles as one could have done in the DRAs (Designated Redlight Areas). Haha.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-632316014603762882009-07-25T23:15:33.173+08:002009-07-25T23:15:33.173+08:00wow! this posting some more got foreword. at the c...wow! this posting some more got foreword. at the close of it, maybe, also got backword (or, is it rearword?) but let's hope there will be bad words.yghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07054865524193859788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-77808397171584395812009-07-25T22:01:33.435+08:002009-07-25T22:01:33.435+08:00Icemoon, you only got about half of them correct:
...Icemoon, you only got about half of them correct:<br /><br />chou gan gung - 做紧工 (=正在做工)<br />hung pai - 红牌<br />ka cheh - 家姐 (=大姐)<br />kwai - 乖<br />pak shuet shuet - 白雪雪<br />pakor foochok - 白果腐竹<br />shifu - 师傅 (=师父)<br />sum ku - 三姑<br />tar mah - 打孖<br />yau sek - 休息Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-80003730568700172982009-07-25T21:36:41.213+08:002009-07-25T21:36:41.213+08:00peter, you are right about the girls being thai. ...peter, you are right about the girls being thai. most of them were young thai girls on social visit passes. the malaysian girls were found in the 2-digit lorongs. the situation was very bad in the 70s, even with condoms being handed out. business was so bad that the girls were literally pleading " ah hia, lye la..". yes, some of the thai girls spoke teochew.yghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07054865524193859788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-64332075806696302062009-07-25T21:27:30.733+08:002009-07-25T21:27:30.733+08:00YG, you want me to die especially my classmate (gi...YG, you want me to die especially my classmate (girl) with me all the time? How can fall into temptation? Anyway got no appetite after what I saw in Desker Road - the stench and the leftovers in the spitoon.peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-379766108769849512009-07-25T21:23:20.424+08:002009-07-25T21:23:20.424+08:00YG during the research we were aware of "fish...YG during the research we were aware of "fish bowl" concept but for foreigners like Thais. <br /><br />We were told this was illegal and not approved by anti-vice. So that explains the concentration of non-Malaysians near the Gay World area/before the Geylang Stadium area. Malaysians don't like the "fish bowl" concept. Keong Siak definitely got no non-Malaysians, so no "fish bowl" concept.peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-44856027506984637422009-07-25T21:22:23.671+08:002009-07-25T21:22:23.671+08:00Icemoon, regarding the girl with the umbrella, I w...Icemoon, regarding the girl with the umbrella, I would think that she's in the trade. Why else would someone stand in that obscure corner in Geylang? Cannot be waiting for a cab. Also, why use the umbrella when there was neither rain nor shine?<br /><br />Peter provides a plausible answer:<br /><br /><i>The girl holding an umbrella in the photo - umbrella is a symbol of for prostitute in Geylang. The white hand-bag carries powder in plastic bottle and bottle of massage oil. She is a massage girl on house-call. Of course she will "sell her body" eventually. Prostitute carry small purse (symbol in Keong Siak Road) not so big like massage girl's handbag - inside contains condoms (free to customer), essential make-up set like lip-stick and powder puff for quick touch-up before leaving the brothel after working a customer, and small change for customer payment.</i>Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339178864363140977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-21522714830378044812009-07-25T21:00:48.365+08:002009-07-25T21:00:48.365+08:00peter, while conducting interview/carrying out res...peter, while conducting interview/carrying out research, the keong saik or geylang place didn't offer one session on the house?<br /><br /><i>Unlike places like Bangkok or Manila where the customer can check out and select the girls “inside the fish bowl”, in Geylang and Keong Saik Street you don’t get to see the “goods</i> <br />by pointing out the error here, i am exposing my own wandering lust. in the 70s, when we toured the lanes of geylang (single digit even numbers), the girls wore a number tag each and they were visible to us 'inside the fish bowl' - similar to what i saw in bangkok.yghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07054865524193859788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-83330699271759949602009-07-25T20:02:27.100+08:002009-07-25T20:02:27.100+08:00Somebody help me translate the glossary leh. Victo...Somebody help me translate the glossary leh. Victor?<br /><br />chou gan gung - something 赶工?<br />huang pai - 皇牌<br />ka cheh - 大姐<br />kwai - 乖<br />pak shuet shuet - 白雪雪<br />pakor foochok - 白果腐竹<br />shifu - 师傅<br />sum ku - 三姑<br />tar mah - what is this?<br />yau sek - something 息?Icemoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08174805596607457468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13303109.post-59263392526604967392009-07-25T19:48:03.840+08:002009-07-25T19:48:03.840+08:00The one carrying umbrella in the trade meh? Her dr...The one carrying umbrella in the trade meh? Her dressing looks pretty decent leh.Icemoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08174805596607457468noreply@blogger.com